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The Kevin and Fred Show 

Mar 27, 2023

In this episode of the podcast, I’m joined by the author of DIE WITH ZERO, Bill Perkins. It’s a book that has really grabbed me, made an impact and helped me noticeably change things. There are plenty of books on money and building wealth, and by and large, they are solving for net worth, not net fulfillment. 


Mar 20, 2023

In today’s episode, I’m joined by our good friend and fellow Arizona real estate, Chris Bowers. One of the most unique parts of Chris’ story is that he got into real estate at 22, after being exposed to different types of business models, including running his own skate shop as a teenager! Chris is going to open...

Mar 13, 2023


In this episode, I’m joined by Brindley Tucker, the woman who has closed 5000 transactions without selling a single house. When it comes to the admin side of real estate, Brindley is a pro. From scaling and structuring to leadership and team building, she’s spent a lot of time in and around successful businesses,...

Mar 6, 2023

In today’s episode, I’m joined by a repeat return guest, Dave Z. One of the most admirable things about him is his drive to constantly refine his business model to match who he is and what he wants. This is very evident in how he designed leverage in his business, refusing to be constrained by the way things...

Feb 27, 2023



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